I appreciate that on your website, there have to be broad ideas rather than nuanced argument. A block of impenetrable text never attracted anybody save the most hardened academic. However, the four statements on the front page of your website make little sense. They are:
- Marriage Is Unique
- No Need To Redefine
- Profound Consequences
- Speak Up
Let me show you why each of these points caricatures arguments made by proponents of gay marriage and are anyway poor arguments against it.
Marriage Is Unique But Not Exculsive
Marriage is a commitment based on love between two people. That is unique but it is not exclusive to a man and a woman and your assertion as such is merely that - an assertion. Firstly, it is simply untrue that "all human societies throughout history have recognised marriage as between man and woman". There has been documentation of such marriages in China, the Roman Empire and other historical civilisations. But it is nonetheless irrelevant.
Something being historically true does not mean it is a good idea. Slavery, racism and the prevention of women's suffrage are all ancient ideas. However, those ideas have long since been decried as immoral. The case against gay marriage needs to do better than simply stating the definition of marriage is old.
Finally, the assertion that marriage is good for children. The causality is false. It is that couples who are happy and bring up children happily are more likely to marry, not that marrying causes couples to be more stable and thus bring up children more happily. If there is a stabilising affect to marriage, it is yet to be demonstrated since no studies I am aware of look at the stability of a couple before they were married or whether a similar couple that does not marry falls apart more quickly. Moreover, it incentivises failing couples to stay together where a healthy break-up may be the best thing for both partners and children.
Anyway, this suggests that your movement only has a problem with gay marriage where the intention is to have children. Since infertile couples or couples with no intention of conceiving or adopting are not opposed by your movement, I fail to see why this is an issue.
The Need To Redefine
Equal but not the same is not good enough. It perpetuates the idea that something like sexuality, which you do not choose, should be used to separate people. On this basis - that it is not a choice - it is no different than discriminating on the basis of sex, race, disability or age.
If civil partnershps provide all the same legal rights, then what is the difference anyway? Marriage has long existed as a secular institution otherwise the Coaltition For Marriage should be campaigning against marriages of atheists. So given your arguments are not religious, what is the basis for excluding one set of people on a criterion which, I repeat, is not their choice?
A Lack Of Profound Consequences
"Those who believe in traditional marriage will be sidelined." Why? What aspect of marriage makes it traditional that is being denied by gays? Tradition is not a sufficient argument for denying the rights of others. Two people having a gay marriage does not sully the institution for others. This is no different from saying we should not allow blacks to marry because some whites feel it should be a white-only ceremony. The institutions of slavery and racism which I mentioned earlier are traditional. This does not justify them. Neither does it justify the exclusion of gays.
You then make three outrageous statements - careers could be harmed, children would not be adopted and schools would have to teach the new definition. For the first two statements, no argumentation or evidence followed so I cannot refute them other than by saying, no. As for the final statement, so what? There is no harm from this. The recategorisation of Pluto from a planet to a dwarf planet revealed no such problems. I see no reason why this should be different with gay marriage. Please feel free to provide me with one.
Speak Up
This I absolutely agree with. We live in a democracy and I welcome the debate. If anybody personally wants to debate gay marriage with me in a public forum I will happily do it. Those who stand against gay marriage should come out and say so. If you're only doing it because of political correctness, not because it is simply the right thing to do, we proponents do not want your help.
If we are to grant rights to British citizens, sexuality should never be a criterion for differentiation. We do not judge anybody on the basis of what they are sexually attracted to in any other sense - that they may be attracted to the same sex should mean just as little when deciding how we treat them.
Yours sincerely,
Dr Rajin Chowdhury
Something being historically true does not mean it is a good idea. Slavery, racism and the prevention of women's suffrage are all ancient ideas. However, those ideas have long since been decried as immoral. The case against gay marriage needs to do better than simply stating the definition of marriage is old.
Finally, the assertion that marriage is good for children. The causality is false. It is that couples who are happy and bring up children happily are more likely to marry, not that marrying causes couples to be more stable and thus bring up children more happily. If there is a stabilising affect to marriage, it is yet to be demonstrated since no studies I am aware of look at the stability of a couple before they were married or whether a similar couple that does not marry falls apart more quickly. Moreover, it incentivises failing couples to stay together where a healthy break-up may be the best thing for both partners and children.
Anyway, this suggests that your movement only has a problem with gay marriage where the intention is to have children. Since infertile couples or couples with no intention of conceiving or adopting are not opposed by your movement, I fail to see why this is an issue.
The Need To Redefine
Equal but not the same is not good enough. It perpetuates the idea that something like sexuality, which you do not choose, should be used to separate people. On this basis - that it is not a choice - it is no different than discriminating on the basis of sex, race, disability or age.
If civil partnershps provide all the same legal rights, then what is the difference anyway? Marriage has long existed as a secular institution otherwise the Coaltition For Marriage should be campaigning against marriages of atheists. So given your arguments are not religious, what is the basis for excluding one set of people on a criterion which, I repeat, is not their choice?
A Lack Of Profound Consequences
"Those who believe in traditional marriage will be sidelined." Why? What aspect of marriage makes it traditional that is being denied by gays? Tradition is not a sufficient argument for denying the rights of others. Two people having a gay marriage does not sully the institution for others. This is no different from saying we should not allow blacks to marry because some whites feel it should be a white-only ceremony. The institutions of slavery and racism which I mentioned earlier are traditional. This does not justify them. Neither does it justify the exclusion of gays.
You then make three outrageous statements - careers could be harmed, children would not be adopted and schools would have to teach the new definition. For the first two statements, no argumentation or evidence followed so I cannot refute them other than by saying, no. As for the final statement, so what? There is no harm from this. The recategorisation of Pluto from a planet to a dwarf planet revealed no such problems. I see no reason why this should be different with gay marriage. Please feel free to provide me with one.
Speak Up
This I absolutely agree with. We live in a democracy and I welcome the debate. If anybody personally wants to debate gay marriage with me in a public forum I will happily do it. Those who stand against gay marriage should come out and say so. If you're only doing it because of political correctness, not because it is simply the right thing to do, we proponents do not want your help.
If we are to grant rights to British citizens, sexuality should never be a criterion for differentiation. We do not judge anybody on the basis of what they are sexually attracted to in any other sense - that they may be attracted to the same sex should mean just as little when deciding how we treat them.
Yours sincerely,
Dr Rajin Chowdhury